August 05, 2005
EU recognizes Iranian right to peaceful nuclear energy - Countdown to nuclear terrorism begins
And so we begin phase one of the world's march to nuclear terrorism, facilitated by a Europe too fearful of confrontation to have the fortitude to stand up against Iranian threats.

[(Nuclear power plant (UCF) 295 km from Tehran March 2005 (AFP/Henghameh Fahimi)]
By caving in now and "recognizing the Islamic Republic's right to peaceful nuclear energy but not to making atomic fuel with possible weapons use," the EU has set in place the fullfilment of certain forthcoming tension to develop nuclear weapons throughout the Middle East with Iran, Syria, Egypt, and Saudia Arabia - all scrambling to be the new kid on the block with the latest in nuke-em technologies. And along with these exercises in random acts of insanity, we can expect to experience random acts of nuclear terrorism by terrorists using weaponry acquired from Iran, it's agents, and Islamic terrorists facilitated by it's agents.
If there is a single leader in the free world that seriously believes Iran does not intend to develop atomic weapons - then they haven't been listening to the Islamic regime. They are living in a dream world so common to moonbats, and there will soon come a time when in the midst of "recognizing the Islamic Republic's right to peaceful nuclear energy" - nuclear weapons will rain down upon our cities and nuclear weapons will be the weapon of choice for Islamic terrorists who have no qualms about dying while destroying entire nations.
VIENNA (AFP) - The European Union offer submitted to Iran on Friday recognizes the Islamic Republic's right to peaceful nuclear energy but not to making atomic fuel with possible weapons use, diplomats said.
The EU says it "respects Iran's rights under the (nuclear) Non-Proliferation Treaty for the peaceful use of nuclear energy," a diplomat at the UN atomic agency in Vienna told AFP in summarizing the report.
If Iran does acquire atomic bombs, which it fully intends to do, it will most certainly put pressure on other countries in the region do the same, especially since many Arab countries believe it's unfair that Israel has nuclear weapons and they don't. If Arab countries, particularly Saudi Arabia, Egypt and possibly Syria, found themselves caught between a nuclear-armed Israel and a nuclear-armed Iran, it would greatly increase pressures to pursue their own nuclear options - increasing the potential for terrorists to gain access to nuclear weapons. Such events can only result in not only a regional arms race in the Middle East which is extremely likely to be destabilizing, given the number and intensity of conflicts and instabilities in the region and rapidly spreading throughout the world.
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Are those Israeli Air Force F-16s I see on the horizon?
Posted by: Brad at August 05, 2005 12:45 PM (3OPZt)
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Will there be mig 25s 0r 19s over Washington D.C. comming from the EU?
Posted by: sandpiper at August 05, 2005 08:06 PM (GOyHB)
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The EU has dropped their pants and bent over for the muslims. What are the dummies doing? Relying on Israel again?
Get ready for anothr mass migration. Europeans to America. They have given Europe to the rag heads and will not wish to live in their own countries.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 05, 2005 08:38 PM (CBNGy)
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A win/win scenario for the EU. Let the Israelis do the dirty work they know is necessary.
Then their leftist domestic pols can breath a sigh of relief and bash Israel and the great Satan the United States. Pick up votes without having to do the real business of State.
Europe once again holds the coat and waits until the dust settles.
I like most Americans find no reason to want their friendship. Except for the Brits, I have no use for them.
Posted by: Brad at August 05, 2005 11:26 PM (6mUkl)
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My Pet Jawa 3.0: The Glorious Return of Rusty Shackleford
I'm back,
biyotches. Thank you to all the guest-bloggers for CMA (covering my arse). You guys rock. Let me extend an invitation to all of you to post at the Jawa whenever you want.
Big things afoot on my end. BIG THINGS. In my personal life, in my professional life, and in my blogging life. Thanks to all of my readers for helping make The Jawa Report a success. If you have any suggestions on how we can keep improving my little pet Jawa, please feel free to e-mail me at any time.
Apologies to all my friends and co-bloggers who have sent me articles/posts in the past few weeks that I wasn't able to link.
I'm back from vacation, and even though the semester doesn't start for another few weeks I still have some mucho grande responsibilities which may make it difficult to blog heavily in the near future.
UPDATE: Did I miss anything while I was gone?
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Posted by: Howie at August 05, 2005 10:14 AM (D3+20)
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 05, 2005 10:18 AM (DDXXI)
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Rusty, how bout you begin by offering an amnesty to all the people who have been banned in the last couple of weeks.
Posted by: Anonymous at August 05, 2005 10:18 AM (8e/V4)
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Ok, except as far as I can tell, no one has been banned. They were threatened with being banned, and then stopped commenting.
Posted by: Rusty at August 05, 2005 10:22 AM (JQjhA)
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He means the Downing Street Memo dude and Greg. Make them sign a contract to act like an adult before you let them come back. That's my advice, for what it's worth. Just saying!
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 05, 2005 10:24 AM (DDXXI)
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greg says he was banned.
Posted by: Carlos at August 05, 2005 10:51 AM (8e/V4)
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Oh yeah, Greg was. I meant for that to be temporary, though. If some one wants to e-mail him and tell him to e-mail me, I'll unban him. DSM is not welcome back, though.
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Posted by: slickdpdx at August 05, 2005 11:23 AM (MjGRu)
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Just returned from from my Fishing Tournament in Virginia. Team Greyrooster finally won one. We not only took first but also biggest fish and most fish.
I agree with Downing Street Moron's banishment. He is a sick coward.
Being the intolerant racist that I am I wouldn't put up with the traitor Greg either. But it's your blog. Perhaps you know better. I don't say I always right. Anyway, as long as he is around we have something to hate besides the goat humping muslims he defends so much.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 05, 2005 06:46 PM (CBNGy)
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Welcome back, Rusty.
Hey, what about a spot with REAL pics of some regulars so we can put a "voice" with a face?
Those with gnads need only apply.
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Guess the Googile
It's Friday,
waste the rest of your day with this engaging game in which they provide a collage of images collected from a Google search and you have to guess the search term.
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Pick up your balls and load up your cannon for a 21 gun salute.
Wednesday night I rode home listening to classical music it was a nice relaxing drive. Actually I like some of the more active classical better. Not saying IÂ’m a fan but as I age I have learned to appreciate a bit now and then. So then on Thursday I had grown tired of news and Morning Edition so I switched over to Rock & Roll. I mean loud smashing thrashing stuff. At the exact moment I switched a new song came on and inspired me. Then I got in and Saw Mad DogÂ’s post which inspired me even more.
I’ve been getting some comments like, are you schizophrenic? Well I guess perception is reality so I might as well go with it. As many of you out there know already out beloved Maries took it on the chin this week. These guys do the most dangerous, dirty, and difficult assignments of all our armed forces. There are some Special Forces exceptions but in general these grunts do what others can’t or won’t. Grandpa talks about being in the Pacific and how he spent an awful lot of time on a ship for “airborne”. When they would take an island the navy would pound the beach all night with artillery and then guess who got to establish a beachhead so the Army would have a place to land. You got it Marines.
Ok on to the point. The combination of Mad DogÂ’s post and the trip into work gave me an idea. IÂ’m not sure how it will be received as some days I find out after the post that it was a crappy idea. But the village idiot always imagines that which others deem impossible. IÂ’ve got a bunch of leftover farwurks from the fourth. My son and I picked out 21 m80Â’s and 21 whistling moon travelers last night. I canÂ’t decide which to go with but the plan is to fly our flag on Sunday. My flag is inherited from Aunt Joy who dropped dead at an American Legion dance a few years back. We have flown it till itÂ’s just about shot. IÂ’ve got to get a new one because this oneÂ’s special. The second part of the plan is at 9:00 pm CDT on Sunday 08/07/05 to let off those 21 firecrackers as a salute to all fighting men and women working for freedom around the globe but especially this week for our fine Marines. I donÂ’t know about where you live but at that time where I live it will be quiet except for hoot owls and whippoorwills. I extend my apologies in advance to my bats. So load up your cannon and fly your flag. Also let all keep safety in mind. Should you choose to use a firearm be careful. A trip to the ammo store for some blanks might be in order. LetÂ’s try and not go to jail for this. So caps, farwurks, firearms used carefully and in accordance with the law (yeah right), loud music whatever you have get it out. We plan to be finished by 9:15. While disturbing the peace in this case is for a good cause letÂ’s not be getting ourselves into too much trouble.
Sith apprentice beotch Howie
Also Rosemary calls our attention to Iran.
Here too.
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Must not be a very good idea or else everyone hates me now. Oh well like I'm not used to that.
Posted by: Howie at August 05, 2005 12:49 PM (D3+20)
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Howie has come up with another brilliant idea. Let's all go out like a bunch of Iraqi's and shoot of guns just for the heck of it. Oh and who cares if anyone gets killed from the fallout. At least we're all yelling and chanting and shooting off guns, right?
And what the heck are farwurks!!!??
Posted by: wolf j newton at August 05, 2005 02:00 PM (D3+20)
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iffin ya aint gots no idear whut farwurks iyus ya aint never beyun to that thar Reeves Boomland.
Posted by: Howie at August 05, 2005 03:46 PM (D3+20)
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ah also likes that thar email addy ya gots there. iffin ya don liyuk thangs thayut goes boom fly yer doggone flayug theyun.
Guilty as charged.
I'm in too good a mood to fight with you today try back next week.
Posted by: Howie at August 05, 2005 03:49 PM (D3+20)
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Oh, Howie! You are too funny. lol. Here is the whole link for the post I wrote:
http://mynewznideas.blogspot.com/2005/07/mahabad-iran-in-serious-trouble.html.
Iran sent in troops to Mahabad yesterday. It's really heating up over there, because it isn't just there. People are peacefully protesting for a regime from the north to the south in Iran! It may not be long before one of two things happen:
1. Iran falls from within.
2. Iran murders, tortures, and imprisons most of its' population!
I like to put my hopes on #1, but I'm afraid it may be #2. They sent in over 100,000 troops to Mahabad. Keep your eyes open...
Posted by: Rosemary at August 06, 2005 04:25 AM (JngAT)
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My flag is always up. No, not outside, because I don't want it stolen or torn. I live in Southern California. It really sucks that idiots who have the freedoms they do not understand won't even appreciate those for whom they their due. Jerks.
Sorry, but it really bothers me. This in-fighting just to bring down President Bush, well, it may get us killed. There is no losing. This is what they do not nor will not understand. Why? How did we get to this point of ignorance? Aha! Public Education! hehehe. j/k
Posted by: Rosemary at August 06, 2005 04:33 AM (JngAT)
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Last night I put a cigarette lighter under my a-hole and let out a monstrous fart. Does that count as uh...farwurks?
Posted by: wolf j newton at August 08, 2005 10:19 AM (D3+20)
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Note the the wolfman. Note that if I'm pulling your leg that the post is pretty much kind of like a story told around a campfire. And Oh yeah I did let those fireworks off last night. Also flew my flag all day. I add words like farwurks so that everyone knows it's an anarchy friday post moron. Also if you were really talking with me I might sound just like that. Check out campfire cafe. Well I'm not that bad but I know those who are.
Posted by: Howie at August 08, 2005 10:28 AM (D3+20)
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Also I think the wolfman may be Ed. Hey Ed.
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Posted by: wolf j newton at August 08, 2005 02:37 PM (D3+20)
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Hey wolf hows the horses running old buddy. I want to quit too you bastard you abandon us. thanks for stopping by and remember to check out the rest of the site. The other authors are good especially Rutsy.
Posted by: Howie at August 08, 2005 02:42 PM (D3+20)
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uh...uh...hey can i borrow your cellphone? i hear it's available for public use
Posted by: wolf j newton at August 09, 2005 10:38 AM (D3+20)
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You suck wolf. Nah the kid had gotten a hold of it and racked up a pretty penny downloading games. It got covered though. His butt got some coverage too. I had told him not to mess with it and he snuck off and really pulled good one.
Posted by: Howie at August 09, 2005 10:56 AM (D3+20)
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tell him to hurry up and have kids of his own. grandkids are much more fun
Posted by: wolf j newton at August 09, 2005 02:04 PM (D3+20)
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They are all fun at two. So are you doing clothing optional offtrack work from your couch. I'm headed for the deck.
Posted by: Howie at August 09, 2005 02:07 PM (D3+20)
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These are not the droids you wanted.(UPDATE)
Check out this surreal Iranian
press conference at LGF:
Reporter: What will the scope of the (UCF) activity in Esfahan be at the beginning? Will it have full or partial capacity?
Asefi: What do you care?
Oh, I like this guy. Are you guys going to have a ceremony to let the IAEA know when the Esfahan reactor's working?
Asefi: No. If by “special ceremony” you mean handing out cake and candy, then we have no such thing.
He's just so cheerfully belligerent about it, but still pretty smooth. Sort of Baghdad Bob meets Bob Novak. I assure you, I am interested in seeing more of this Asefi guy.
Asefi: No. I know it is of no interest to you.
UPDATED & BUMPED: I decided to try Asefi's masterful redirection technique with my wife--the results are detailed below the fold:
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Too Funny. Freedom of the press does not mean freedom of the truth.
LOL
Anty
Posted by: Anty at August 05, 2005 01:21 AM (K/zPN)
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I know this is an off topic but this is a must read article.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1186717.cms
It's too late for those countires "infected" but at least they can try.
Posted by: Roopesh at August 05, 2005 02:14 AM (YxeqH)
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Hey Anty,
Freedom of the Press? You do realize this Iran? Many Iranians are dying in their prisons for voicing the truth, an opinion, or simply being in the vicinity. Do you know of the protests? This is not a scolding. I would just like you to go to
The Daily Briefing on Iran and learn about what is happening. Thanks.
Hey there, Magi Jawa! lol. I hope I can smell sarcasm when I read it. Wait, that doesn't make sense? lol. Anty was probably just being funny, also. It gets to me after a while, though. I have been
working very hard to free Akbar Ganji before they kill him, and other issues in Iran and the ME.
Hey, I need to cool off! You have a great day!
Posted by: Rosemary at August 05, 2005 02:15 AM (JngAT)
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You think your Jedi mind tricks are going to get you out of the laundry?
Posted by: Flea at August 05, 2005 08:41 AM (Vqoxs)
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Roopesh: that article portrays India as a veritable paradise devoid of the strife any democratic country faces. While yes, to some extent, India's democracy is a success story, it certainly is not wihtout a great deal of turmoil and dissent perpetrated by its Muslim faction. Nowhere is the recent history of even Kashmir mentioned. And those upwardly-mobile Muslims in their society are certainly in the crosshairs of the fundamentalists. It was irresponsible on the author's part to ignore the elephant in the room and pretend it doesn't exist or can be assauged.
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And See-Dubya, that was pretty damn funny.
Posted by: Oyster at August 05, 2005 09:32 AM (fl6E1)
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Man, these reporters need to be able to think on their feet:
Reporter: What will the scope of the (UCF) activity in Esfahan be at the beginning? Will it have full or partial capacity?
Asefi: What do you care?
Reporter:
I'm thinking of buying a house in Esfahan and would like to have some idea what the costs for electricity would be and, maybe, whether or not Esfahan would be a target for some Israeli-initiated preventative measures, like say, an airstrike. Remember?
Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 05, 2005 10:12 AM (70uoQ)
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pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
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Krugman is an idiot part 10,000
We all know Paul Krugman is a total freaking loon when talking about the economy. His complete and total lack of even the most fundamental understanding of how econmics works would keep him from getting any sort of job short of the one that he currently has, which is writing his flights of fancy for the New York Times. And if it weren't for the Slimes, I'm pretty sure no one else would allow him to babble on like he does.
However, Krugman has decided that showing his ignorance in the field of economics just hasn't been fulfilling lately. So, he decides to take on a whole new field. Now you might think that he would tackle something related to economics, or at the very least, politics. You'd be wrong. No, Krugman jumps ship and swims all the way out into the deep waters of creationism vs evolution. However, he laughingly attempts to relate the argument to both economics and politics, which simply makes for more entertaining reading.
*WARNING* WARNING* WARNING*
I am NOT using this article to advocate either creationism or evolution. I have my own deeply held beliefs on the subject that are not the subject of this current article.
*WARNING* WARNING* WARNING*
Even though he is attempting to write an article on creationsim, Krugman just can't resist taking a poke at economics.
Mr. Kristol led by example, using The Public Interest to promote supply-side economics, a doctrine whose central claim - that tax cuts have such miraculous positive effects on the economy that they pay for themselves - has never been backed by evidence.
And not only does he take a poke at economics, he shows us all that he is not living in the real world where we have job growth, economic growth, unemployment dropping, economists raving about how good the economy is going, and TAX CUTS. But I guess it's just random chance that they all happened at the same time, because you know it's never been proven that tax cuts can do any good.
You might wonder how a discussion about supply side economics can work its way into a discussion about creationism. Believe it or not, Krugman makes the leap. He attempts to show how the "Evil Republicans" led by the "Corporate Gestapo" have paid off the economists and researchers so that they will produce reports in their favor. In this way, Krugman speculates, they intend to discredit scientific theory.
The most spectacular example is the campaign to discredit research on global warming. Despite an overwhelming scientific consensus, many people have the impression that the issue is still unresolved. This impression reflects the assiduous work of conservative think tanks, which produce and promote skeptical reports that look like peer-reviewed research, but aren't. And behind it all lies lavish financing from the energy industry, especially ExxonMobil.
So let me get this straight. Greenpeace and a few scientitsts say that the earth is steadily getting hotter based on evidence gathered over a few hundred years and this makes an "overwhelming scientific consensus?" What about the overwhelming number of realistic scientists who point to global weather trends that span over thousands, ten thousands or even hundreds of thousands of years? What about the fact that tons of the Greenpeace "evidence" has been debunked, and some of it found to be outright fradulant? How about the fact that no one has any real, hard, evidence of any one specific thing that we, the people of the workd, are doing to increase the temperature of the planet? But to Krugman, all the proof he needs is that some research was done by scientists funded by "Evil Corporations." That immediately makes the entire research fake and all its findings null and void.
Oddly enough, he then attempts to say the same thing about creationism v. evolution. Since the creationism argument has been brought up by a bunch of religious nutcases, then it is automatically null and void before any evidence is presented. He even admits this bias, if not in so many words.
Creationists failed when they pretended to be engaged in science, not religious indoctrination: "creation science" was too crude to fool anyone.
Since it comes from a creationist, it must have no scientific basis. Thus, it is invalid. What a convenient way of winning an argument. I think I'll try that next time. "Since I don't agree with you, you're an idiot. And since you're an idiot, I can't believe in or agree with anything you've said."
He then goes on to assume facts not in evidence.
The important thing to remember is that like supply-side economics or global-warming skepticism, intelligent design doesn't have to attract significant support from actual researchers to be effective. All it has to do is create confusion, to make it seem as if there really is a controversy about the validity of evolutionary theory.
Now, I have no idea what evolutionary theory Krugman is referring to. If he's referring to the micro-evolution that happens around us all the time and creates small changes within a species to allow adaptation, then he's right. It's a solid, proven, scientific theory. However, if he's referring to macro-evolution, which says that we all sprang up from slime, then he is completly and totally dead wrong about there being no controversy. There is plenty of controversy. What there is an alarming lack of is evidence and proof that any such thing ever has or ever will happen. Now, does lack of evidence for evolution prove creation science? No. Just as lack of evidence for creation science does not prove evolution.
But again, I'm not here to argue creationism vs. evolution. I'm simply here to point out how much of an idiot Krugman is. He starts with a flawed theory, that anyone who says anything he disagrees with is just a corporate shill and must be immediately disbelieved. He then uses this theory and his opinion to attempt to prove that evolution is the be-all and end-all of science. Proof or evidence be damned, he's going to stick up for what he thinks. My advice, Paul, is find something you're good at. Because it's not economics, and it's certainly not science.
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Drew: You're asking for it now! Wait till Rob reads this!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 05, 2005 09:47 AM (x+5JB)
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BTW, if someone's interested in that OTHER topic, Gerry Keane's "Creationism Revisted" is a must-read (http://www.kolbecenter.org/cr_tableofcont.html)
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Macro-evolutionists accept a conclusion based on a belief unsupported by observable data...creationists accept a conclusion based on a belief unsupported by observable data... and the difference is???? I posted a great piece a while back (Blogger has no categories, so finding it again would be a major undertaking), a Newsweek article from thirty years ago detailing the uncontrovertable and widely accepted "scientific" conclusion that the changing climate was already effecting the earth and we would all soon die IN A NEW ICE AGE! Boy, that global climate change sure works fast. From the ice age to the incinerator in just thirty years.
Posted by: GeoBandy at August 05, 2005 10:14 AM (JZz6U)
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Geo: What! Never heard that Frankie Laine song "I believe"?!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 05, 2005 11:32 AM (x+5JB)
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And A Little Child Shall Lead Them...
CNN this morning has an interesting article about a group of childrens' art that is on display in New York. But these aren't just any children. These children come from Dafur. And these aren't just any childrens' drawings. They depict the violence and hatred that they see on a daily basis in Dafur.
Human rights activists, seeing this display, see something else. They see representations of crimes and human rights violations.
"For the first time we have graphic representation of the crimes," said Olivier Bercault, a Human Rights Watch researcher.
But why are you so excited about having pictures of the human rights violations? After all, as recently as February 2005, the UN said that while there were bad things happening there, they weren't actually bad enough to do anything about. And Kofi Annan himself, when visiting the region in 2004, got firsthand evidence of the atrocities that were happening. And what did he do then? He smiled, made the people a few vague promises, got his picture taken and left.
I don't think there's any question in anyone's mind nowdays what is going on in Darfur. The question at this point should be what is going to be done about it? I feel like the ball is in the UN's court, but I'm certainly not holding my breath for them to actually step up and do the right thing. How many more children have to live with this sort of horror before you decide that it's enough?
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"For the first time we have graphic representation of the crimes," said Olivier Bercault, a Human Rights Watch researcher.
Does HRW not read the New York Times or
Nicholas Kristof? Kristof, in one of his finest moments ever, actually used his space on the page to post pictures from Dafur, showing the bodies piled up like cordwood (
I believe the images used in the editorial). And those pictures were more newsworthy than anything else the NYT has done on the subject of the Dafur genocide since the world first learned of it months ago.
We know that over 200,000 people have been slaughtered in the genocide, but HRW is only getting wind of the situation now? What the heck have they been doing? Sipping tea out on the verandah [Joe Wilson doll not included]?
Personally, I've been writing on Dafur for months now. Actually, my first posting specifically on the subject is
April 8, 2004, which is more than a year ago. We've known the genocide has been ongoing for nearly all that time. HRW has known. And now they say that they didn't have a graphic representation of the genocide? Pathetic.
Posted by: lawhawk at August 05, 2005 09:40 AM (AcoYr)
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I saw on CNN this morning that UNICEF was saying there is a huge famine going on in Niger, and it is only going to get worse.
U.N is set to deliver enough food to feed everyone, and use U.N soldiers to distribute the food -- Just kidding, they're still at the "talking" about the famine stage.
Perhaps they'll have a special council into the meaning of the word "famine"? much like the one on "genocide" in Dufur that has thus far stopped the U.N springing into action?
Posted by: dave at August 05, 2005 09:49 AM (DO6vD)
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UK Outlines New Security Measures
British Prime Minister Tony Blair today outlined new security measures that include deportation of persons involved in fostering "hatred":
10 Downing Street—The Home Secretary today publishes new grounds for deportation and exclusion. Deportation is a decision taken by the Home Secretary under statute. The new grounds will include fostering hatred, advocating violence to further a person's beliefs or justifying or validating such violence. These grounds will be subject to a short consultation period which will finish this month. Even under existing grounds, however, we are today signalling a new approach to deportation orders. Let no-one be in any doubt. The rules of the game are changing. [. . .]
"Should legal obstacles arise, we will legislate further, including, if necessary amending the Human Rights Act," the prime minister said.
The Brits are forging a bold new path and the free world should follow their lead.
Cross-posted at OpinionBug.com
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Right, we give them a free country to live in and all they do is spit in our face!
Posted by: Dan at August 05, 2005 07:11 AM (lSkty)
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Female Sexual Abusers
Overshadowed by the high-profile cases of female sexual abuse by Sandra "Beth" Geisel, Debra Lafave, Dawn Reiser, and Sylvia "Cool Mom" Johnson are more than 70 others occurring within the past six months. When each was reported by the media, an entry was made at
Interested-Participant to document the alleged cases of molestation, predation, assault, or abuse along with appropriate links to sources of information. Yesterday, a compilation was posted.
There are over 70 names on the list and, when coupled with the Women With Boys list posted in March, well over 100 females have been implicated in incidents of inappropriate sexual behavior with minors over a period of about nine months. Each is different and each is serious. Nonetheless, the prevalence of the predatory sexual behavior may be even higher than is reported in the news since I speculate many cases are hidden from the public. In any event, the frequency of the incidents seems to go unnoticed by the media.
Note that I didn't go searching for stories about women with boys. They popped up in general reading, usually while looking for something totally unrelated. All I did was document the occurrences with a post and then compile the list after a period of time. All the while, I tried to keep abreast of legal proceedings so the posts could be updated to reflect their ultimate disposition. I'm hoping to be able to collect enough data to support or dispute the contention that female predatory sexual behavior is treated less harshly by the judicial system than male predatory sexual behavior. Thus far, it's too early to tell.
There are, however, some preliminary observations that are worthy of noting. First, female sexual abuse of minors is generally viewed as less criminal than comparable male sexual abuse. This attitude seems to be based on the myth that youngsters being indoctrinated in sex by women is harmless and there are no victims. This attitude is false. In many of the cases, the female sexual abuser inflicts divisive and permanent harm on family, friends, and communities.
Second, the laws among the states are inconsistent with regard to defining what is criminal. For example, in North Carolina it's criminal for a female teacher to have a sexual relationship with a student from her school. In South Carolina, if the student is over 16, it's legal.
Thirdly, there appears to be no commonality whatsoever regarding the punishment meted out to convicted female sexual abusers. A female teacher prompting several male students to unleash the dragon could result in jail time, loss of teaching credentials, and registration as a sex offender in one case while another teacher gets only community service.
The More Women With Boys list is too long to cross-post. View it at Interested-Participant.
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The Galloway Syndrome: What Am I Missing?
By Demosophist
George Galloway, as quoted byMEMRI:
"The real question is, after the evidence of Sykes-Picot 1, are you ready to accept Sykes-Picot 2? What does Sykes-Picot mean to the Arab world? Nothing except division, disunity, weakness, and failure. Two of your beautiful daughters are in the hands of foreigners - Jerusalem and Baghdad. The foreigners are doing to your daughters as they will. The daughters are crying for help, and the Arab world is silent. And some of them are collaborating with the rape of these two beautiful Arab daughters. Why? Because they are too weak and too corrupt to do anything about it. So this is what Sykes-Picot will do to the Arabs. Are you ready to have another hundred years like the hundred years you just had?"
Not only is this jaw-droppingly stupid, but there was a time when incitement against your own country, especially during a war, would have gotten you drawn and quartered. Not that a return to such barbarity is warranted, but there was a reason for it. Thomas Hobbes saw that the primal fear was the fear of violent death at the hands of one's fellow man, and that it is this fear which is the source of the "enlightened self interest" that motivates us to bond together to create and maintain civil order and to defend against external enemies. It is this that made treason the most heinous of all crimes. And he also rightly reasoned that the further we stray from a coherent connection to that primal fear, the more corrupt and vain we may become, and therefore the less likely to maintain those bonds that ensure security from the "state of nature." If Galloway and others are able to easily avoid the consequences of such "speech" (and if it's not seditious, I don't know what is) it will become an entrenched tradition among the disconnected and self-annihilating wishful thinkers of the West. But it still strikes us as more a matter of pathetic mental illness than corruption, because for most of us the assets of civilization are still more tangible than our fantasies.
(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia, Anticipatory Retaliation and The Jawa Report)
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I believe the proponents of authoritarian socialism in the west honestly don't view the risk correctly. They see it as a minor law enforcement issue which can be played to gain control of western society. Once returned to power here in the US they'll just negotiate with the Islamanazis and they'll all be able to sing kumbayah.
Actually, the "Peace at any Cost" movement of the late '60s, choreographed in Moscow, provides a striking model. We ducked that bullet. I'm not sure we can duck this one with a 1 billion "silent majority" quietly rooting on the Islamanazis
Posted by: RiverRat at August 04, 2005 08:17 PM (WY8yS)
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Funny.
Mr. Galloway before the elections was nearly killed by a mob of London Islamists for the sin of participating in a democracy.
Suicidal indeed.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at August 04, 2005 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
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He's married to Arafat's niece. Bat shiot crazy runs in the family.
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Posted by: Will Franklin at August 04, 2005 09:28 PM (EpqBR)
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What an excellent defence of the US government's fear mongering! Good patriot! Good patriot! yes yes, you're getting table scraps tonight for sure. good boy!
Posted by: Mustafa AK at August 04, 2005 10:02 PM (jWaQK)
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Galloway is a treasonous dog not worthy of quoting. He should be shot.
Posted by: Jester at August 04, 2005 10:26 PM (QKZX5)
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Galloway is unfit for public office and doubly unfit for public consumption. He needs to be neutered and put to sleep. I only hope our "good" ally sees the damage this man does/has done/will continue to do and takes action. Talk about a pimple on the ass of the world ... Oy!
Posted by: Bubbe at August 04, 2005 10:47 PM (cbAi4)
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I heard a radio talk show person (or the guest) say that in the early 1900's, the legislature got rid of the sedition clause. Oh really? Could you please show me this? I don't seem to be able to find it in MY Constitution! lol.
I believe Omar
from Iraq the Model was refering to Galloway, and not Gallowi, in this article yesterday, Aug. 4, 2005. He was in Syria giving them comfort. Where did you say this speech occured??? Hmm.
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Mustafa: What in the hell are you talking about?
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Reassessing the enemy
David Brooks, in his NYTimes column, deflates the myth of Islamic terrorists as being medieval creatures, noting that they are instead brimming with the worst ideas of modernity. Most of them are educated, and most of them have been to the West, and most weren't really even political before they took up jihad. (In this regard they follow the founder of modern Islamic terrorism, Sayyed Qutb, who came to America, was repelled by its decadance, and went home and started scheming about how to destroy it.)
But I have to stop here and ask, how could they have been political in their antidemocratic home nations? Politics as we understand it doesn't really exist in Arabia or Egypt or Syria--you don't have, say, opposition parties or the right to express yourself freely. There's the state, a big dangerous monolith that can kill you, and the best you can do (if you don't work for it) is to keep your mouth shut and stay out of its way. And then there's religion, which these you can't avoid at all. And then, from this perspective, there's America and the Zionists, which are the conspiratorial Emmanuel Goldstein scapegoats for everything that goes wrong with this wonderful system.
Now, a smidgen of political power is something that you and I take for granted--we can write our congressman letters and lead a campaign to oust him if he's a doofus, we can start a blog or write letters to the editor, or we can even run for local or state or national office if we can shake hands and smile and speak in coherent sentences. If he plays his cards right, a well-informed individual can actually have some effect on the way things are run.
But I think growing up in an authoritarian world leaves many people politically retarded. They are in the modern world, but not of it, to paraphrase St. Paul. So when this empowering jihadist ideology comes along that sells the notion that you, young shaheed, can make a difference and have some power over these strange forces that are screwing with your world, it's like a first glimpse of a nekkid woman. And you're willing to do a lot of stupid things to follow up on that glimpse, that image, that illusion.
Maybe American-style rights based, rule-of-law democracy is just an illusion, too. A lot of leftists think it is; I think they're ill-informed and ungrateful wretches. But even pretending that's true, what a wonderful form of self-deception it is compared to the perverted and violent illusion that the jihadists are selling. One is a dream and one is a nightmare. I don't see how even a complete nihilist could seriously equate the two.
Oh, I was talking about that David Brooks piece. One of his conclusions is that he doesn't think democratizing the ME is going to change things too much--but for the reasons I give above, I think it will help. Man is a political animal, said Aristotle, but in the Middle East the political animal is chained and starved and brought up mean. I think the notion of a government where you can speak freely and make a difference (and meet chicks, too) might actually channel some of this aggression and alienation into a useful direction.
I very much agree with Brooks' third conclusion, though:
Third, terrorism is an immigration problem. Terrorists are spawned when educated, successful Muslims still have trouble sinking roots into their adopted homelands. Countries that do not encourage assimilation are not only causing themselves trouble, but endangering others around the world as well.
You either assimilate people into the state, or you leave them chained and shivering in the cold, depending on you for the scraps you throw them. England has failed to do this, failed to emphasize the decency of its people and its amazing history. France has tried in a ham-handed way, banning the hijab along with any expression of faith in their schools, but largely warehouses an unassimilated tribe of foreigners within her capital who are modern, but not French. Germany is starting to see the light, and Holland may have learned this the hard way, but it may be too late to do anything.
This story's making the rounds, but I saw it first at Galley Slaves.
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Speaking of Helpin a Brother Out . . .
Vinnie,
thanks for the help, but let's get on board and help out the Freedom Alliance. The money is going directly to funding scholarships for children of soldiers killed in action. We all need an edumatation you know.
I've tried to pimp out Jim's participation in the Blogathon before, bit it seems the donations he's received "are stagnant." The charity which Jim has chosen to give to is Freedom Alliance.
Go on and put a dollar or two into Jim's Blogathon tip jar. You know you want to.
And if you're looking for some fun, the Dirty Kafir has a nice little caption game with Ayman al-Zawahiri himself. I personally like the commented ones better than the suggested captions.
Hey, don't ever say I didn't try to entertain.
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The Cole Twins and the First Counterwar
By Demosophist
It actually took me awhile to figure out that Juan Cole wasn't just the hispanicized identity of John Cole. (There are actually some authors who interchangeably use both forms.) Juan Cole is a highly educated and esteemed idiotarian who has more in common with George Galloway than with his namesake, while John Cole is a pro-war blogger with occasional misgivings about the "how." But they both seem to agree about one thing: our leaders are a little schizophrenic about whether we're at war, and with whom. Read the comments to Michael J. Totten's Fisking Juan Cole and you'll soon see that there isn't even agreement within the Right about who or what we're fighting, so it's not at all surprising that consensus and conviction about the "how" are frequently unimpressive. Are we at war with Islamism? Well, what about the popularly elected Islamist government of Turkey? They're certainly a troublesome ally, but in spite of their frequent obstinacy Turkey continues to have a robust trade and defense relationship with Israel. We aren't at war with them, are we? And the Ba'ath remnants that our media insists on calling "insurgents" in Iraq aren't Islamists, are they? It can get confusing.
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The first time I saw the name John Cole I got confused until I read what he wrote. It's pretty hard to confuse anyone with the Islamist apologist and ivory tower idiot Juan Cole once you have read anything he has written. It is amazing that someone can be a "Middle Eastern scholar" and be so completely wrong in both facts and conclusions.
Posted by: Don Miguel at August 04, 2005 03:25 PM (+KixN)
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Great stuff. Yes I think it may have been possible to prevent WWI and WWII had anyone done anything before it was
too late to stop it
Posted by: Howie at August 04, 2005 03:52 PM (D3+20)
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Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.
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Great stuff. Yes I think it may have been possible to prevent WWI and WWII had anyone done anything before it was too late to stop it
Had Churchill prevailed in those days I have no doubt the world would have seen the same sort of objections one sees from the Left nowadays, and the condition of the opponent would, no doubt, have looked very much like the condition of Islamofascism today: disconnected, weak, poor, but with unquenchable determination. The fact is that when the British and French cultures looked at that Nazi/Fascist/Phalange determination they knew that they had no chance of matching it until the threat had grown sufficiently to engulf the world in the flames.
Make no mistake, what we're doing now is entirely unique... and much to the chagrin of the UN supporters really represents the "true world government," in its infancy.
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'Bama Leads the Way
Balloon Juice and
Don Surber are pointing to articles in
Yahoo and
The Washington Times (free registration required) that tell of states who are battling against the recent Supreme Court Kelo decision. The Governer of Alabama has signed a bill that prohibits the state, cities and counties from taking private property for retail, office, commercial, industrial or residential development.
Delaware also has changed its law since the high court ruling on eminent domain. Legislatures in at least eight other states are weighing proposals this year. More may be coming. And Congress is considering action.
"When legislatures start new sessions in January, I expect the majority of states to take up bills that would restrict the use of eminent domain for economic development purposes," said Larry Morandi, environmental program director for the National Conference of State Legislatures.
The issue has spawned an unusual alliance among conservatives opposed to the principle of government seizing private property and liberals worried that poor people would be the most likely victims.
I'm glad to see that at least some politicians haven't taken leave of their senses. I honestly thought that the underage death penalty was the worst Supreme Court ruling I had ever seen, but this one really takes the cake.
Don Surber reminds us that
Governments exist to protect the rights of individuals, not to seize the land of one person to gift to a rich corporation in the name of tax revenues.
I couldn't agree more. That is a fact that some of them seem to forget as they become more and more self-serving. I have to wonder, though, what will happen when someone challenges the constitutionality of these state laws?
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Both houses of the Texas legislature have passed acts with very restrictive eminent domain provisions.
Posted by: GeoBandy at August 04, 2005 11:20 AM (5jnES)
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From the horse's mouth:
So what is shown on the 87 photographs and four videos from Abu Ghraib prison that the Pentagon, in an eleventh hour move, blocked from release this weekend? One clue: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Congress last year, after viewing a large cache of unreleased images: "I mean, I looked at them last night, and they're hard to believe.” They show acts "that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane," he added.
Posted by: JJ at August 04, 2005 12:13 PM (HFKAk)
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Ummm, OK. Was someone planning on using eminent domain to take Abu Ghraib?
Posted by: Drew at August 04, 2005 12:21 PM (Ml8z/)
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Maybe Bush will have two conservative judges on the bench by the time the domain cases reach the SCOTUS. We can hope.
Posted by: opine6 at August 04, 2005 12:31 PM (YyWmH)
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Depends on the state constitutions. My wildly uneducated guess is they will pass muster.
Posted by: mikey at August 04, 2005 01:22 PM (O9Cc8)
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JJ,
the only thing straight from the horse's mouth is that you people can't get your story straight.
JJ & Co. now want us to believe that Rumsfeld both ordered the abuse at Abu Graib AND that he finds the photos of the abuse "hard to believe".
Posted by: Carlos at August 04, 2005 02:24 PM (8e/V4)
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Last I heard, 12 different state legislatures were already taking steps to put limits on eminent domain in response to Kelo. The part that made me proudly shocked was that Oregon was among them.
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Its time to end this entimate domain why should city goverments be allowed to seize a persons private peoperty and sell it to a wealthy developer to build a cassino anyway? its time to declare entimate domain unconstitutional
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Helpin' A Brother Out
I don't have a problem hosting images on my blog and hotlinking them here. So to help Chad out with his post below, here is an image of Ayman Al-Zawahiri from today's videotape:
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Here's a pic of him working hard. -
http://photos5.flickr.com/5142425_63dfd3274f.jpg
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 04, 2005 01:12 PM (SZ940)
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Hey thanks. I've had to write in a script against hotlinking because my images were on too many different forums.
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Vinnie that was fantastic LOL.
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New Zawahiri Tape Warns of New Attacks
Ayman al-Zawahiri has released a brand new video tape warning England of more attacks "because of Tony Blair's foreign policy decisions."
The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing."
In all fairness, Zawahiri and Al Qaida threatened England before Blair was in power, but why let the facts get in the way of a rambling psychopath.
The Associated Press offers a bit more from the video tape.
Referring to the Western nations contributing troops to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, he said: "As to the nations of the crusader alliance, we have offered you a truce if you leave the land of Islam.
"Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before there is security in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammed?" al-Zawahri added.
Al Qaida, under Osama Bin Laden, did offer European nations a truce and later rescinded the offering two months after the time period was up. The problem is that one of the main goals of Al Qaida is to topple Europe and turn it into a Sharia Law waste dump. It is part of the Caliphate state they wish to accomplish, therefore it is just more of the incoherrent ramblings of Zawahiri.
Where is this Bin Laden promised tape? According to various jihadi message boards, they were all excited Bin Laden was to release a video tape in May, then June and finally July. Furthermore, why has Zawahiri released two video tapes in two months yet no word from Bin Laden in almost a year?
The Associated Press also has new information of what was in the tape it is directed at the United States.
"As for you, the Americans, what you have seen in New York and Washington, what losses that you see in Afghanistan and Iraq, despite the media blackout, is merely the losses of the initial clashes," he said, referring to the Sept. 11 attacks blamed on al-Qaida.
"If you go on with the same policy of aggression against Muslims, you will see, with God's will, what will make you forget the horrible things in Vietnam and Afghanistan."
He then addressed Americans, saying, "The truth that has been kept from you by (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld is that there is no way out of Iraq without immediate withdrawal, and any delay on this means only more dead, more losses.
"If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, and after tens of thousands of dead, and double that figure in disabled and wounded."
The "media blackout" refers to a propoganda tool used by Al Qaida and radical Islamic fighters in the Afghan-Soviet War to say there are thousands more casualties and actually reported. We see this on just about every communique that comes out of Iraq and Zawahiri has adapted this for his own use.
As best I recall, the United States did not invade Afghanistan or Iraq until after Muslim agression, but my memory is a bit hazy. Perhaps someone could clear that up for me. The figure of "tens of thousands" dead soldiers is quite lofty considering the number just went over 1,800 this week. While I am sad for the loss of even one soldier, there is always a distinction between what Al Qaida says and what is the truth. Yet they run around and call everyone else liars. Heh.
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Yah, it's clearly Blair's fault. He's obviously the one running around planting bombs and denotating them. "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing."
Sorry, but YOU, Zawahiri, are the one bringing destruction in central london.
These people's brains are totally screwed.
Posted by: tyler at August 04, 2005 09:10 AM (Y9Lwb)
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Old bugger looks like crap. Me thinks life on the run does not agree with him.
Dear Lord: Please guide one of our beloved Special Forces members to this foul pimp and allow him to remove the old goat's head.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at August 04, 2005 09:16 AM (5ceWd)
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 04, 2005 10:09 AM (DDXXI)
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The capture or killing of Zawahiri would make more impact on the war against terror than capturing or killing Bin Laden, this guy should be the driving force rather than Bin Laden.
Posted by: dave at August 04, 2005 10:23 AM (DO6vD)
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Dave, excellent point. Zawahiri is the driving force behind Al Qaida and Osama Bin Laden, but Bin Laden is the face behind the group for most jihadis. I personally would rather see Zawahiri captured or killed than Bin Laden.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 04, 2005 10:27 AM (Yxk8B)
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Why do I think "Iran" when I see that photo of Zawahiri?
He's obviously in front of a tent. His dress seems different.
Posted by: Allan Guyton at August 04, 2005 10:40 AM (NYNGR)
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Well, Britain can breathe a little easier - the attacks they promise in videotapes, audiotapes and on web sites never seem to materialize.
Posted by: Eric J at August 04, 2005 10:47 AM (hrQvk)
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http://www.homeland securityus.com/zawahiri.asp
I'm not sure if anyone has seen this but coupled with this post @ tomoreport which explains it better:
http://thetomoreport.blogspot.com/2005/06/latest-zawahiri-video-signals.html
suggests the placement of Zawahiri's AK-47 rifle, is used to put forth attacks, close to his body for preparation, away for execution of plot.
take it at face value, but I found it interesting. Another thing that I found interesting in their videos, is that they could contain hidden messages (for example the Yemeni dagger in Bin Ladens cloak during one of his video, did that trigger the attack on Cole?) but why does Bin Laden appear to be wearing a Timex "IronMan" watch in a few of his videos?
Posted by: dave at August 04, 2005 10:53 AM (DO6vD)
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Dave:
Good point. It would appear the Rifle is on his right side if you were sitting next to him. Let's not forget they believe they must warn first. But have we not already been warned. I'm not sure if this is a warning or a starters pistol. The Rifle seems to be sort of far back in the background. I wonder if the sunlight is the hidden message.
Posted by: Howie at August 04, 2005 11:08 AM (D3+20)
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One would think bin Laden would have a MUCH more expensive watch than a Timex.
But they do take a licking...
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:26 AM (x+5JB)
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"Zawahiri is the driving force behind Al Qaida and Osama Bin Laden"
They've been up in those caves soo long that I'm sure he driving some sort of force behind OBL. hee hee...
Posted by: JustPlainJoe at August 04, 2005 11:48 AM (Xj6+u)
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JustPLainJoe,
Oh, now I have that sick visual in my head! *gag*
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 04, 2005 01:16 PM (SZ940)
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This infuriates me. Can you folks imagine what would happen if the U.S. did withdraw due to threats like this?
BUT--we are being slowly bled over there by the leech of terrorism, and we need to change tactics somehow. Fouteen dead marines in two days. Any ideas, anyone, that don't involve nuclear weapons?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 01:22 PM (x+5JB)
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Undoubtedly, Zawahiri is the head of the beast. Bin Laden is simply his puppet. I've thought so since September 12th, 2001. The guy is evil incarnate.
And all the mainstream media idiots can talk about is how his clothes are so clean and pressed. Their idiocy is absolutely astounding.
What I want to know is why they're concentrating so hard on the UK. I thought America was the Great Satan.
Posted by: Oyster at August 04, 2005 02:05 PM (fl6E1)
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Oyster: Yes, but England is his little red helper.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 02:23 PM (x+5JB)
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reminds me of what Kruchev had bragged about..."We will bury you!!!"....where is the Soviet Union now???...Al Quada and Islamic militants are going the same way....into the dust bin of history and fallen dictatorships
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 04, 2005 02:37 PM (9gFP6)
Posted by: Insider at August 04, 2005 02:59 PM (m9bOd)
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We should send Scott Baio into Dirkdirkistan to finish these bastards off once and for all. Sherpa sherpa Mohammad Jihad, Bakkalaa
Posted by: Filthy Allah at August 04, 2005 03:48 PM (5ceWd)
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The leftists are the enablers of the terrorists. What can you or I do about it? Just asking.
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Well, when Zawahiri said If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, and after tens of thousands of dead, and double that figure in disabled and wounded. then he must have meant that we'll leave in around 20 or 30 years. Extrapolating from the current death rate, anyways. (Although the wounded/disabled figure will be much higher than merely double.)
Posted by: Mark Flacy at August 04, 2005 06:18 PM (8aYgm)
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"If you listen to the words of the terrorists you see that all they do is take what is said by liberals in the West and then repeat it back in a scary voice."
I agree. The danger is from such people who show their weakness by making allowances for creeps like this old fart of Islam. I hope Osama is suffering in ill health... this could be why this creature has decided to take on al-Qaedas PR role. Death to them all...preferably long and slowly. Long live Western culture!
Posted by: Jester at August 04, 2005 07:07 PM (QKZX5)
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Why even put that old shit garbage on the news? It's nothing but retoric he learned to the America new media anyway. Same words, same old shit. Low life muslims, come out and fight like real men. You're nothing but a bunch of sissies.
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Typing in the dark sucks.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 08:09 AM (9Dlss)
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Wake up everyone...the republicans and democrats are behind "Al Qaeda" and the "frat" boys are making out on the deal...create chaos then make money cleaning it up...throw an ideological agenda in there to make the puppets dance. Check out the PNAC report that went to DOD and JCS back in 2000 at newamericancentury.org. It states, "concern about the military becoming complacent if they don't have a new international competitor"...then voila BOOgieman Bin Laden...and that there was concern the "U.S. would lose it's global supremacy short of another cataclysmic attack like a new Pearl Harbor"....voila 9-11. How convenient. 9-11, 3-11 Madrid attacks,, 7-11 Boy Scout (BS) troup at an Army base recently, 411 Elm Street "Dealy" Plaza re. JFK assassination, OSwald, OSama Bin Ladin (A.M. be in Os Land), OSman Hussein of Rome linked to 7-21 (777/BlackJack) botched attacks....do we see a pattern here? BTW....
9-11...lets roll...Norman OK connection to OKC and Mousaoui, Normans first ruler was Rollo in 911 A.D., invasion of Normandy Beach, ect...John 9:11 regarding Jesus spitting on dirt and putting mud in blind mans eyes and telling him to go wash in the pool at Siloam to see....wake up....thousands of innocent people are being killed over this elitist 'game'.
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Wake up everyone...the republicans and democrats are behind "Al Qaeda" and the "frat" boys are making out on the deal...create chaos then make money cleaning it up...throw an ideological agenda in there to make the puppets dance. Check out the PNAC report that went to DOD and JCS back in 2000 at newamericancentury.org. It states, "concern about the military becoming complacent if they don't have a new international competitor"...then voila BOOgieman Bin Laden...and that there was concern the "U.S. would lose it's global supremacy short of another cataclysmic attack like a new Pearl Harbor"....voila 9-11. How convenient. 9-11, 3-11 Madrid attacks,, 7-11 Boy Scout (BS) troup at an Army base recently, 411 Elm Street "Dealy" Plaza re. JFK assassination, OSwald, OSama Bin Ladin (A.M. be in Os Land), OSman Hussein of Rome linked to 7-21 (777/BlackJack) botched attacks....do we see a pattern here? BTW....
9-11...lets roll...Norman OK connection to OKC and Mousaoui, Normans first ruler was Rollo in 911 A.D., invasion of Normandy Beach, ect...John 9:11 regarding Jesus spitting on dirt and putting mud in blind mans eyes and telling him to go wash in the pool to see....wake up....thousands of innocent people are being killed over this elitist 'game'.
Posted by: G.I.- Joe at August 16, 2005 06:37 PM (S0Kv/)
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Wake up everyone...the republicans and democrats are behind "Al Qaeda" and the "frat" boys are making out on the deal...create chaos then make money cleaning it up...throw an ideological agenda in there to make the puppets dance. Check out the PNAC report that went to DOD and JCS back in 2000 at newamericancentury.org. It states, "concern about the military becoming complacent if they don't have a new international competitor"...then voila BOOgieman Bin Laden...and that there was concern the "U.S. would lose it's global supremacy short of another cataclysmic attack like a new Pearl Harbor"....voila 9-11. How convenient. 9-11, 3-11 Madrid attacks,, 7-11 Boy Scout (BS) troup at an Army base recently, 411 Elm Street "Dealy" Plaza re. JFK assassination, OSwald, OSama Bin Ladin (A.M. be in Os Land), OSman Hussein of Rome linked to 7-21 (777/BlackJack) botched attacks....do we see a pattern here? BTW....
9-11...lets roll...Norman OK connection to OKC and Mousaoui, Normans first ruler was Rollo in 911 A.D., invasion of Normandy Beach, ect...John 9:11 regarding Jesus spitting on dirt and putting mud in blind mans eyes and telling him to go wash in the pool to see....wake up....thousands of innocent people are being killed over this elitist 'game'.
Posted by: G.I. Joe at August 16, 2005 06:38 PM (S0Kv/)
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Above posts were posted three times in memory of the attacks of the innocent on 9-11...the souls of the innocent cry out for justice.
Posted by: G.I. Joe at August 16, 2005 06:49 PM (S0Kv/)
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I don't know about you, but when I read the news, I tend to skim the headlines first and then stop and read anything that has caught my interest. I suspect most of you are probably about the same. Yet I have found that sometimes, the headlines don't accurately reflect what's really going on. Take this morning, for example.
From CNN:
Brain-dead woman dies after childbirth
Fox News:
Brain-Dead Va. Woman Dies After Giving Birth
CBS News:
Brain-Dead Woman Gives Birth, Dies
I've heard of this story, but haven't really followed it much. From skimming the headlines, it sounds like the mother held on just long enough to have the baby and then gave up. Sad in a way, but maybe better off in the long run. Then I get to the Washington Post.
Brain-Dead Mother Is Taken Off Life Support
Now I don't know about you, but to me, that conveys a COMPLETLY different story. I'm not trying to start another debate over the rights and/or wrongs of removing someone from life support. That is an arduous debate that certainly will not be solved on a blog. But what I do want to point out is what I want from my news, which is the truth. Plain, simple, unvarnished truth. After all, if euthanasia is such a good thing, why aren't you coming out and saying that that's what this was? I don't think I'm asking too much of a news outlet to simply show enough respect for me, its readers and even the woman who died to just tell the truth of the matter instead of leading us to think something completely different.
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Howie:
As I stated, there's a difference between this and the Florida case. This wooman was on a support sysytem for breathing, etc., and was not merely being fed food and water. The Church says it is imperative to supply the latter to a person, not the former.
But I get your point. The subtle omission or placement of one tiny word can bring on a whole new meaning.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 07:37 AM (x+5JB)
Posted by: V the K at August 04, 2005 08:08 AM (XiVKO)
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V the K: So many possibilities on this one!
Wonder which "Bill" they mean???
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 08:13 AM (x+5JB)
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Heh. Yeah, we've been discussing that one
here. According to one of my readers, the national sex offender database that Shrillary refers to doesn't contain any entries for New York.
Posted by: Drew at August 04, 2005 08:15 AM (Ml8z/)
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Uh YBP this is drews post.
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Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 09:01 AM (x+5JB)
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Maybe you should try reading the story? The woman had cerebral cancer that effectively ended her life a couple months ago. Because she was carrying a child the husband wanted to give the unborn baby a chance (rather than let the fetus die with her) they kept her body on life support to bring the baby to a deliverable point.
Am I wrong or is commenting without knowledge and appropriate consideration just the kind of knee-jerk behavior that is typical of liberals? Do your homework please! Every good conservative should...
Posted by: Rob at August 04, 2005 11:18 AM (TNu1w)
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Maybe you should try reading the story.
I'm not trying to start another debate over the rights and/or wrongs of removing someone from life support.
Hmmm.
Posted by: Drew at August 04, 2005 11:20 AM (Ml8z/)
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I understood Drew's point was to point out the discrepancies between the different headlines--nothing more.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:54 AM (x+5JB)
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As others have commented this is NOT a re-tread of the Terry Schiavo case, and is most certainly not a case of Euthanasia. It is in fact a story of heroic sacrifice on the part of both Susan Torres, her husband Jason, and a great many charitable souls surounding them. Susan's life support needs were the textbook definition of "Extraordinary measures", the respirator was just the beginning. It was costing Jason ten thousand dollars A DAY to keep her alive for three months to save their baby, ABOVE AND BEYOND what insurance was covering. Friends and strangers pitched in with love, comfort and generous financial support to save Jason and Susan's baby. It is a tragic, but beautiful answer to the Schiavo case where this time love of life has defied the culture of death. Requiesciat in pace Susan Torres.
Posted by: JAU at August 04, 2005 12:02 PM (O/K0I)
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I feel the papers did nothing wrong. It is perfectly okay to
try and lure people into a story with the headline. As long as
they told the truth about what happen in the story, then no foul.
It is much like the spam and other bogus contest, "Enter and you
can $50 gizallion dollars." And then when you read the fine print
you know you have to be able to do 10 backflips, while holding
a 15 pound bowling ball, and sing the newest country and rap
hits in both English and Jamican.
Posted by: Butch at August 04, 2005 01:51 PM (Gqhi9)
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I think the term "brain dead woman" is tasteless. But then again, it is the media, so what do you expect?
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 04, 2005 02:33 PM (SZ940)
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You want the truth from a "news" outlet? What planet do you live on?
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 04, 2005 04:13 PM (Z6yVb)
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Our Priest once said that if the average American watched a partial birth abortion on TV between sit coms, the county would finally come around to the truth of what has been happening.
Imagine a TV 60-second spot where a child is borne alive and itÂ’s skull is cracked open and the brain is sucked out while the child screams.
Much better for butch and the libs to call this....”Choice”
The MSM will call killing freedom, and call the attempt to save life...hate. I have zero expectations from them.
Posted by: Brad at August 04, 2005 11:41 PM (pO1tP)
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Hey Drew,
This rejoinder will be my last and is in my mind one too many, but remember, you called me out. The headlines "brain dead woman gives birth" were completely true. So was the headline "brain dead woman taken off life support". No discrepancy is apparent here. Both statements are true. The news reported the facts in the headlines. No insult to your intelligence was intended.
Sometimes the devil is not only in the details we overlook, but also the details we assume to be in place because of a pre-conceived notion of what happened. Its an intelligent man who can admit he has done that and move on.
Cheers!
Posted by: Rob at August 05, 2005 08:12 AM (TNu1w)
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Your insinuation that I did not read the articles was untrue, and your reaction showed that not only were you falsly accusing and calling me a "knee-jerk reactionist", but you were also engaged in the "non-reading, knee-jerk reaction" of which you accused me.
To think that newspapers have no bias whatsoever, you must live in a complete and total dreamland. They always have and always will. Yes, both of the headlines represented the truth of what happened. Only one represented the ENTIRE truth of what happened. The other three made it seem as though she had simply passed away while giving birth. They don't want to mention the fact that her husband took her off life support. I don't know their reasons or motivations behind this. I do know that it is misleading to someone like me who hadn't been following the story closely.
AND THAT IS THE POINT OF THE ENTIRE POST. I felt that the first three headlines were misleading through omission and did not do justice to the story. I had no preconcieved notion of what happened because I DID NOT KNOW. And, in skimming the headlines of the paper, I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN.
Now, the next time you want to come around insulting my intellingence and insunating that I am a "knee-jerk liberal", then maybe you should have some vague idea of what the hell I am talking about first. I'll debate you on anything, but there's really nothing here that's debatable. And always remember "It's beeter to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and prove everyone right."
Posted by: Drew at August 05, 2005 08:22 AM (Ml8z/)
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You go Drew. Drew is about as liberal as I am sane. don't let em get to you say whatever the hell you like.
Posted by: Howie at August 05, 2005 08:29 AM (D3+20)
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Okay, now I'm laughing at you. Because if you were careful to read my post, I did clearly make reference to you as a "good conservative". I did NOT call you a knee-jerk liberal; rather I was making a point that because we often despise liberals for the fact that they are characterized by being "trigger happy" with their mouths we should be very careful not engage in that behavior. Sorry if this subtlety caught you unawares. I will be more blunt in the future. Without further ado:
Why did you assume the brain dead mother was not on life support? Generally people who are brain dead, with the exception of extremely rare cases (not mentioning any names or cases!!!) ARE on life support because the brain keeps the heart pumping and the lungs inflating. I would guess the more intelligent half of the population do get this concept. Which half are you? In other words do you get it or not?
Second, why did you assume that if because she could give birth, she was "hanging on" (as you put it) to do that? Brain dead implies no awareness, no willpower, no participation, no anything. The fact that a brain dead woman gave birth implies outside direction and oversight, ie doctors and family making decisions.
Lastly, why did you assume that I was trying to bring up a debate over the rights/wrongs of life support? I was just trying to point out that the headlines were pretty responsible (as headlines go) to the story. IF you think that reading the headlines will be enough to tell you the salient details, well bro, I guess newspapers waste a lot of words if you are correct in that thinking. Kind of like I am doing right now. But this is fun, because you have a bit of a bee in your bonnet and I predict that now you are going to scan this email for more ways to battle me and in the end you are doing just what I reprimanded you for in the first place. You are reading the details. Alas, now we have to work on that open mind...!
Hey, have a great day. I mean that, really. You've more than made mine.
Posted by: Rob at August 05, 2005 08:51 AM (TNu1w)
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Well, I'm so glad that I could entertain you. After all, that is my goal in life.
Q: Why did you assume the brain dead mother was not on life support?
A: I didn't. I assumed, from the first headlines that I read, that she simply died immediately after childbirth.
Q: Second, why did you assume that if because she could give birth, she was "hanging on" (as you put it) to do that?
A: Because originally, all I had of this story was the "headline news" version of it. Very little information. I didn't find out that she was brain dead until after she had died. Everything before that has simply referred to her as "comatose," which is certainly not the same thing as brain death.
Q: Lastly, why did you assume that I was trying to bring up a debate over the rights/wrongs of life support?
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"Maybe you should try reading the story? The woman had cerebral cancer that effectively ended her life a couple months ago. Because she was carrying a child the husband wanted to give the unborn baby a chance (rather than let the fetus die with her) they kept her body on life support to bring the baby to a deliverable point." Sounds to me like you were trying to justify why she was taken off life support, which was not the point I was trying to make.
"IF you think that reading the headlines will be enough to tell you the salient details, well bro, I guess newspapers waste a lot of words if you are correct in that thinking."
Why does CNN have a station called "Headline News?" Little hint, because we don't always have time to read the whole story. I've had an extraordinarily busy coulple of weeks and wasn't up on this story. That's pretty much the whole point to the post. I wasn't up on the story and got a completly misleading idea about the conclusion of the story from the headlines.
"Am I wrong or is commenting without knowledge and appropriate consideration just the kind of knee-jerk behavior that is typical of liberals? Do your homework please! Every good conservative should..."
If I took the above statement in a way that it was not intended, then I apologize. It sounded more to me like you were insinuating that I am not a "good conservative."
Let me make my point another way. Did you ever see the movie "Executive Decision" with Kurt Russell and Steven Segall? When it came out, it was hyped as a Steven Segall action thriller. Most of the previews had Segall in them. Then, we get to the movies and BAM! Five minutes into the movie, Segall was killed and the entire rest of the movie was about something else entirely!
That's what I feel like when I read the headlines above. I've been handed one thing, then when I actually get in and find out what the story is about, it turns out to be something totally different. Or in this case, not totally different, but certainly different enough to be significant.
Posted by: Drew at August 05, 2005 09:12 AM (Ml8z/)
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Okay Drew, I hear your pain on "incomplete stories" and I agree. To that I would only say that a much wiser man than I once said "Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see."
And if I can make one final recommendation, be careful about debating anyone anywhere. General Custer thought he could do that too.
Peace. Out.
Posted by: Rob at August 05, 2005 09:18 AM (TNu1w)
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Hey, I said debate, I didn't say win!
Posted by: Drew at August 05, 2005 09:26 AM (Ml8z/)
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Drew: I think you won this one. The headlines were all (selectively) truthful but they did not do justice to the actual circumstances.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 05, 2005 06:56 PM (3+9IT)
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Gees Brad: Is that what really happens? Makes me sick. Sick enough to kick the so called doctors ass. My wonderful grandson was born two months early. Crack the babies skull open and suck the brain out. Don't ever let me catch one of these murder for money bastards sitting across a bar stool from me. I'll crack his brains open with a bottle of scotch and proudly do the time.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 10:14 PM (CBNGy)
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Yep, greyrooster, that's really what happens. And the alternatives aren't much better. One type of abortion involves flooding the womb with saline solution, wich effectively burns the baby to death which is then ejected. Another involves pulling pieces off the baby while it's still in the womb and then reassembling the pieces on a table to ensure that they "got" everything.
Posted by: Drew at August 08, 2005 06:42 AM (Ml8z/)
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That procedure is just murder in my book.
I’ve said this before,..I just cannot imagine what kind of sub human could pull a 9-5 shift day after day, month after month in a “clinic” like that.
I wouldn’t blow up the bastards like that nut case Rudolph. However, after finishing off a bottle of single malt scotch, if DR. shithead was sitting next to me at the bar, I might just partial birth that son of a bitch with the empty. Especially if that POS Butch was next to him talking that “ain’t nothin but tissue” shit.
Posted by: Brad at August 08, 2005 08:52 AM (6mUkl)
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BAGHDAD,
Iraq (AP) - Fourteen U.S. Marines were killed Wednesday when a huge
bomb destroyed their lightly armored vehicle, hurling it into the air
in a giant fireball in the deadliest roadside bombing suffered by
American forces in the Iraq war.
Look, Abu, this may come as a surprise to you, but while you were doing high fives, passing the hooka around and eyeing the goat in a lewd and lascivious manner, the U.S. Marines were laughing at you.
Yeah, you read that right. They were laughing at you.
You see, Abu Musab al-Suqwad, blowing up 14 Marines doesn't do shit to the war effort. Not by a long shot. Ask the Japanese. Ask the Viet Cong, the North Koreans, hell, ask the Libyans. Where did you think the "shores of Tripoli" came from?
You see, we do the mourning for the dead, Abu. Not them. Oh, they'll mourn, they're not heartless, in the long run. They'll look back one day, remember, maybe even write a book about the horror they encountered.
No, not the horror that you attempted. Our Marines will feel far more sadness about what they are going to do to you for your cowardly remote-controlled IED.
Go ahead, Abu, piss off the United States Marines.
You'll still lose.
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i think you meant to say lascivious.
Posted by: mustafa ali khan at August 04, 2005 01:15 AM (jWaQK)
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. . . and another thing, dear sir, the "terror tactics" of guerilla war used by the Viet Cong did wonders to advance their cause (in part because the US troops responded with such sickening and sweeping brutality that homeside support fell to sh*t). There's not as much media freedom for this particular struggle, so much of the brutality we perpetrate shall not be seen by the sensitive public. . . and as any good war historian will tell you, guerilla warfare is used because it works. The French learned that in Vietnam; the Japanese in China; the Soviets in Afghanistan; the Britons vs. the American colonies.
Posted by: mustafa ali khan at August 04, 2005 01:28 AM (jWaQK)
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Guerilla warfare can only work if supported by the general public. You and I both know that. We also both know these punks don't have the public support they did in Vietnam.
They obviously have your support though.
With that said, could I interest you in a suicide vest? I'll throw in a sheet of plastic for the splatter factor at no additional charge.
Posted by: elliott at August 04, 2005 07:14 AM (XlQVK)
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Guerilla tactics work to create instability, but they do not work to push out soldiers. The Afghan-Soveit War was hardly just a war of guerilla tactics. Any military historican could tell you that much.
And you know, it may shock you Mustafa, but those acts that you've heard about in Vietnam were sometimes even made up. There is plenty of media freedom, it just so happens the opposing side would rather kill innocent children then face U.S. soldiers so media outlets have a hard time justifying sending a reporter to cover their angle of events. In fact, a few have tried they end up without a head.
If Al Qaida wished to work the media, which they are trying, they would have had guerilla tactics and not terrorist tactics. There is a difference and the difference is as clear as night and day. Most people could recognize such differences, but for some reason they evade a few.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 04, 2005 08:23 AM (Yxk8B)
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What Mustafa does not understand is the nature of brutality in war and the nature of American troops. Unlike the Japanese, the Vietnamese, and even the colonial French, Americans do not relish brutality. We tend to avoid it because we are so overwhelmingly strong that we always look like the bad guys if we use it. But if circumstances require brutality to win, then we will be brutal. And Mustafa, you do NOT EVER want to be on the receiving end of American brutality if it is needed to win. You have no idea how horrific it can be. Ask Japan.
Posted by: Scott in CA at August 04, 2005 10:29 AM (iAkUg)
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Amen Scott! The US military is the epitome of restraint. However, when the gloves come off, the enemy is going to get one hell of an ass-whooping.
See:
www.chugoku-np.co.jp/abom/uran/special/hiway.html
www.thefourreasons.org/junearchives.htm
home.alltel.net/roedder/abdali/abdali.html
And if any sandflea has a problem with me enjoying the pictures, they can bite me. If it was up to me, we would be shipping millions of pigs to Iraq for use in feeding prisoners and for burials.
Posted by: Fersboo at August 04, 2005 11:09 AM (x0fj6)
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thank you gentlemen for the enlightening discussion.

peace.
Posted by: mustafa AK at August 04, 2005 04:28 PM (jWaQK)
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looks like the motherfucking Eyerainians are supplying high explosives and shapecharges, too.
http://roomforrant.blogspot.com/2005/08/iran-smuggling-in-shape-charges-used.html
Posted by: Mr. K at August 04, 2005 05:57 PM (xc+qX)
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Has anyone went to Mustafa's web site? I'm curious as to whether or not he's just a common troll or a future target at the US Army live-fire range.
Posted by: Range Control NCOIC at August 04, 2005 08:07 PM (X989z)
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Mustafa fails to understand that history has taught us how to win a guerilla war. When we have had enough of the local population, defending them, supporting them, arming them, supplying intelligence to them you simply get rid of the local populance. Boom. Sudden attitude change. Sudden realization that they were behaving wrong. Sudden desire to get along with the rest of the world. The question can be equated this way. Get it over with quickly, cheaply and finally or draw it out forever and probably have about the same amount of deaths. Also, quess what THE OTHER SIDE GETS TO DIE.
Start rebuilding a civilized middle east now or continue on with this muslim bullshit until we have to do it anyway. Give the bastards 90 days then take total control with all out war. Do these cowardly Islamofacist deserve better than the Germans or Japanese?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 08:28 AM (CBNGy)
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August 03, 2005
Hijabs now optional?
The head of the Muslim College of London has come out against wearing the hijab. Great news, huh?
Hardly. Dave will tell you why.
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Many thanks for the link, my friend.
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at August 04, 2005 10:10 AM (y1hCN)
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There should not be a muslim college in London.
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